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[iMe]

iP4 all the way for me, the HD7 is really interesting but WP7 still has a long way to go. I just don't like Android as an OS, I know most people on here think massive customisation is a good thing but that just means total inconsistency and as the comments in this thread illustrate wildly differing user experience for each user. It's good it available for those that do want to delve deeper but I would never support it in the enterprise

[tonybro]

As I don't have a recent iPhone (i.e. 3Gs or 4) I can't really compare the experience but I do echo your sentiments that iOS is beginning to look dated and I did find simple things complex on previous incarnations of Apple's OS up to 3.1.x.

As to devices, I am trying to run the HD7 as my main device but I keep hitting roadblocks. It was the same story a couple of years ago on iPhone. A cute and cuddly interface doesn't mean you can skimp on functionality and I always went back to the HD2/Touch Pro 2 etc. Since May I've had the Desire and now that would be my device of choice because as a few have pointed out, from a combination of function and interface I think it tops both iPhone and WP7.

I am also waiting with baited breath for a few particular WP7 apps to appear and they would be: -

eWallet (for the same reasons as you D, I use it across multiple platforms so whichever device I have I have the wallets available)
eReader - most of my ebook reading is DRM protected titles so I need to have this in order to use WP7 as a daily device.
PhoneWeaver - for automatic profile switching on the phone - Day/Night/Car/Mute etc. Available on WM6 and Android

[tonybro]

Fair point there iMe, from a manageability perspective Android would be a nightmare and WM6 and iOS would hold sway I can see.

I suppose we will eventually swing around again to the point where we all agree to disagree and comes down to using the tool for the job and we all need different tools as we all have different needs!

[fowljr]

I'm going to agree with Daron on Tapatalk for Android, I find it murder with unread posts. I find I don't use a lot of other things these days, but for me, a must is Documents to Go, marvellous app that available for all the platforms I think.

I've tried Doubletwist as well, couldn't get on with it. It does something funky to the filenames of podcasts making them hard to select when the device is connected to my cars ICE via USB.

I've actually moved to using DoggCatcher on Android and piping the audio through the cars ICE via the Aux port with a cable. It means I have to pause it on device, rather than the ICE pausing it (well, unless I have the milestone connected to the BT car kit, that pauses it).

[waveydavey]

iMe, on 14 November 2010 - 10:05 PM, said:

iP4 all the way for me, the HD7 is really interesting but WP7 still has a long way to go. I just don't like Android as an OS, I know most people on here think massive customisation is a good thing but that just means total inconsistency and as the comments in this thread illustrate wildly differing user experience for each user. It's good it available for those that do want to delve deeper but I would never support it in the enterprise

I agree with this statement as a comparison between vanilla iOS and Android, but as soon as you factor in jailbreaking that all goes out the window. iOS then loses all it's consistency.  From an Enterprise perspective because of all the locks and checks you can do with Group Policy I think that WM6.5/6.1 and Blackberry are the only true Enterprise class OS's. WP7 is miles away from being ready for business use IMHO.

[The Guru]

Well today I braved the waters on Android with the Desire, but missed WP7 as:

• Email handling of the Desire still let me down, as per Exchange accounts which I've already mentioned, but also the lack of Hotmail access and finally the email client being poor compared to WP7 (that is mass deleting / handling emails).
  
• Movie playback - using both 'Video 1' and 'Rock Player' my Smallville episode I was watching broke up and failed to play 3/4 of the way through.

So I'm back with the HD7 tomorrow!

[iMe]

waveydavey, on 15 November 2010 - 09:35 AM, said:

I agree with this statement as a comparison between vanilla iOS and Android, but as soon as you factor in jailbreaking that all goes out the window. iOS then loses all it's consistency.  From an Enterprise perspective because of all the locks and checks you can do with Group Policy I think that WM6.5/6.1 and Blackberry are the only true Enterprise class OS's. WP7 is miles away from being ready for business use IMHO.

We do have generally well behaved users, mainly because of a very well written acceptable use policy, and I know we've discussed this before but essentially we operate a policy of regular audits, any one found to have jail broken their iPhone has it taken off them, not had to do it yet. I do have concerns about the ones out in Malaysia that I don't directly control but in France we have a good guy policing them there too.

The problem with WM6.5 is that even with HTC Sense it just isn't user friendly enough for an average user whereas iPhone and WP7 are. support is such an issue for most companies that security unfortunately takes second place.

[waveydavey]

iMe, on 15 November 2010 - 09:32 PM, said:

We do have generally well behaved users, mainly because of a very well written acceptable use policy, and I know we've discussed this before but essentially we operate a policy of regular audits, any one found to have jail broken their iPhone has it taken off them, not had to do it yet. I do have concerns about the ones out in Malaysia that I don't directly control but in France we have a good guy policing them there too.

The problem with WM6.5 is that even with HTC Sense it just isn't user friendly enough for an average user whereas iPhone and WP7 are. support is such an issue for most companies that security unfortunately takes second place.

So do you physically audit the devices? If not, how do you determine if they are Jailbroken or not?

I agree about the useability with WM6.5. Personally I still rate WM6.1 standard for business use (I know I'm gonna get hammered for this) and used it myself personally until I started using WP7 for both.

[fowljr]

I'm using WM6.1 Standard for work Dave. Best battery life I've had for ages, quick and concise. Not many bells and whistles granted, but add in Phonealarm, totally functional.

[iMe]

waveydavey, on 16 November 2010 - 09:40 AM, said:

So do you physically audit the devices? If not, how do you determine if they are Jailbroken or not?

I agree about the useability with WM6.5. Personally I still rate WM6.1 standard for business use (I know I'm gonna get hammered for this) and used it myself personally until I started using WP7 for both.

Yes we physically audit, only reliable way I know